So I so this list of the 500 colleges with the highest yield rates (above 23%) at Lendedu
Well, I did a bit of data manipulations and came up with a list of where I divided the yield rate by the accept rate, getting a figure I called the DGS factor (Don’t Give a S**T)..
In particular, it is a list of colleges by how much they care whether you really want to go there.
I’ll use a personal example. My two older kids were very strong college applicants- straight A’s, strong scores, mostly AP’s. Son a National Merit Scholar, Daughter a National AP Scholar.
Son went to visit number 14 on the list and went to sign in. He asked where he should sign in and they said they don’t have such a list!
Daughter applied to number 200 as a safety school (she was admitted to places like Middlebury and Swarthmore). She got stuck in traffic so visited the college after admissions was closed. She was waitlisted.
So when students ask you whether it is important for them to let the colleges know how much they want to go there, check out the DGS index. If colleges are not on the list, I suspect that they have yield rates under 23%.
Check it out at the link below:
As a counselor, I always did two things:
1) I gave junior families college lists to consider.
2) I asked about and discussed family financial considerations.
When I became Director, I was a bit surprised by the lack of consistency on these two really basic parts of our job. I worked at a school where I commented in a written observation that the counselor did not discuss with a low-income family how the student would pay for an expensive college that severely gapped the student. She told me that the former director did not allow them to discuss personal finance issues. It seems more common than not to only discuss financial aid terms, policies and forms rather than individual financial circumstances.
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My Sister-in-Law directed a play called “The Pain in the Itch” by Bruce Norris. In it, the main character, an upper middle class American, Clay, describes to an African cab driver, Mr Hadid, how he wants to give his daughter “every advantage”. Mr. Hadid notes that an advantage for one necessitates a disadvantage to another. Clay vehemently denies this motivation, but Mr. Hadid stands by his words. Clay, it seems, is the literary embodiment of the helicopter parent, who through blindness of amoral familism, cannot see the implications of his behavior.
The term “helicopter parent” was coined in 1990 by Jim Fay, parenting and educational consultant, and Foster W. Cline, MD, a psychiatrist, in the book Parenting with Love and Logic: Teaching Children Responsibility.. It referred to a parent who hovers over a child in a way that runs counter to the parent’s responsibility to raise a child to independence.
Julie Lythcott- Haims: lists 4 cultural events or shifts which contributed and led to this: Continue reading “Bulldozer Parental Impacts”
Our education policies have been designed, particularly over the past few years, to manipulate the disenfranchised and the disadvantaged into supporting policies that are based on fantasy and result in generation of students ill prepared for success in life.
These include the abandonment of vocational education, the standards movement and the romantic embrace of STEM education. Each is based on what may be good for a small number of students into policy for all students. Each is also presented as a rejection of abuses of the past in a way that reduces opportunity for meeting the needs of a large swath of our population.
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Many parents and students can’t accept that much of this process is about who you are, not what you do, and desperately look for how to play the game, which, like Heisenberg’s Uncertainly Principle, changes as they play it. The more “they” (students/parents/private counselors/even school counselors) try to beat the system, the more the system changes.
Kids are told to “take the most demanding schedule available and have the highest performance” (even, parenthetically, by colleges reps from schools that don’t really require this). So kids grind themselves into the ground taking 5 AP’s in major subjects and an elective of AP Computer Science and joining the Fed Challenge Team and spending countless hours on fencing or crew and hours more in SAT or ACT prep, only to be told that they “don’t ring any bells”, though they have run out of time and energy and thoughtfulness by just trying to meet the minimum of what they think they need to get in the door.
Continue reading “What’s Crushing our Children?”
Apply down: My son, with Ivy League credentials, took a full academic scholarship to Rutgers. Many school are willing to give students substantial merit scholarships, but you’ve got to consider attending a college which would be a safety school.
Start at community college. Almost all the tuition and fees at community college are covered by Pell grants for low-income students and working while attending college.
Earn college credits in high school: Either through AP courses, community college courses or on-line college courses.
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